Artemis Capital's flagship Vega Fund fell more than 13% last year when the markets churned relentlessly higher, minus a dip in early September. And financial advisors, its even worse because your business revenue is tied to the stock market, clients freak out, they pull their assets. AcreTrader provides access, transparency, and liquidity to investors, while handling all aspects of administration and property management so that you can sit back and watch your investment grow. With Preqin Pro, you gain an unobstructed view of all alternative asset class activity across institutional investors, fund managers, funds, portfolio companies, deals, exits, and service providers. But even a great product, a job with your products that are actually broadening and making some of these strategies available to people to some degree. I think the hardest part of that 100-year portfolio is the long vol, I truly believe its the hardest thing to do and do well. They block it to save people, but theyre not saving people. Demographic boom, with baby boomers coming into the workforce, lower taxation, deregulation, globalization, all these things have been very helpful for asset prices, both stocks and bonds. Thats really, really tough. Web+44 131.225.7300 www.artemisfunds.com Investment Discipline Artemis believes that, whatever markets are doing, opportunities for above-average returns are available for active managers. Itll help people have fun with this, but like we found that long volatility obviously is a true diversifier, gold is a true diversifier, treasuries in an equity portfolio are diversifier. And anytime they dont go up, the Fed intervenes, cuts rates, does QE, and that has resulted in this incredible kind of buy the dip regime. And its quite interesting most people would rather fail conventionally than succeed unconventionally. ACMs quantitative algorithms are intended to produce returns in a range of market environments and protect against subjective or emotional bias. The amount that people allocate to foreign markets is tiny on average in the U.S. Today we have an awesome show with you, with the founder of Artemis Capital. And if youre interested in deeper understanding, for more information on how to become a farmland investor through their platform, please visit acretrader.com/meb. You can quantitatively prove theyre not diversifiers. But even if they wanted to do something like that with gold or something, they oftentimes have to face this massive bureaucracy. I guess, they had him under a pseudonym in the movie. Bay leaves, I dont think they do anything to a soup. Lower drawdowns and better risk returns. Meb: I dont think theres any left, theres a list of short hedge funds. But most If I had to talk to the average advisor, and Im going down this list, long vol, gold, CTA, systematic, merger, maybe no one has any of those that I ever talk to. There are pension systems out there where, you know, theyve tried to take 5% of their portfolio to gold, its very difficult for them to even do that. With data and benchmarks that track back more than 40 years, Preqin Pro is the most trusted data provider in the industry. So, it will take into account that framework or something like a Sharpe ratio if its not. We exist to help you take risk responsibly. What that means is that if yesterday was up, today is likely to be up, and if yesterday was down, today is likely to be down again. Comments or suggestions? It may become outdated an there is no obligation to update any such information. Try walking into a boardroom and saying, hey, not only should we buy fixed income, we should lever it. WebArtemis Capital Management (ACM) is a Texas-based hedge fund manager founded in February 2009 by Christopher Cole. You can go to negative rates, but the likelihood of going to negative 3%, in a deflationary crisis is very difficult. And likewise a $1 at the end of March 2020, is worth more than $1 of today. Meb: So, it still includes financial crisis for the most part? And its important to understand exactly how anomalous that is. Yeah, it also gets into this concept too, which is really interesting. The beauty is that, the beauty in this diversification by market regime, over 100 years is that you dont predict. Over the recent 1-year and 3-year period this fund returned cumulative growth of 5.92% and 64.38%, which were the highest in its sector. You still in Austin? The stock market returns are so highly correlated to when shit hits the fan. Guest: Christopher R. Cole, CFA, is the Founder & CIO of Artemis Capital Management LP. So, you heard it here first. Mr. Coles core focus is systematic, quantitative, and behavioral based trading of volatility and derivatives. I might want to shoot bonds and I might regret it. We saw it happen last year. We first warned about that in 2015, then again in 2017, and then Mike Green, I dont if you had him on the show, but Mike is an amazing, brilliant talent, smart guy, but him and I actually had an argument at a Derivatives Conference, we were doing the keynote together. That occurs sometimes or the efficacy of fixed income becomes neuter when rates are at the zero bound, because you just cant lower rates much more. What are you going to do? Chris: There we go. Ninety-one percent of the performance of a stock-bond portfolio, over the last 100 years has come from just the period between 1982 and 2007. The exact opposite conclusion is what you would expect. And its like the worst equity curve, it just goes down and down and down. Chris: Thats your Dragon Portfolio, 98 Chicago Bulls. The investment management industry is stuck measuring the player and not the wins. I really appreciate having the opportunity to talk about some of these things with you and bring it to full circle. If you love the show, if you hate it, shoot us feedback at feedback@themebfarbershow.com, we love to read the reviews, please review us on iTunes and subscribe to the show, anywhere good podcasts are found. Every rebound that Dennis Rodman can get in the fourth quarter and pass it back to Michael Jordan for another shot is worth a ton of points. All we have known in our entire lives is a regime where stocks, you buy on dips on stocks, stocks go up. But historically, its been a bit of a coin flip depending on the environment. I can get into that a little bit because the options market didnt really exist prior to the 1980s. So, when you put Dennis Rodman on a team of mediocre scores, the teams offensive efficiency went up and their wins went up, even though Rodman himself was not a great score. I think that is some of the best stuff. Well, strategies like long volatility actually performed very well. And this portfolio, not only performed in every single market cycle but also was able to do so with about 1/5 to 1/6 the drawdown of a 60/40 portfolio and a risk parity. Itd be like a sunburn, its got to go away, eventually. I said, okay, Im going to go back, Im going to backtest every conceivable financial engineering strategy, portfolio strategy, and even option strategies. Many of these things that people talk about as diversification tools are actually risk enhancers during periods of secular change, stagflation, deflation. AcreTrader provides access, transparency, and liquidity to investors, while handling all aspects of administration and property management so you can sit back and watch your investment grow. So, if youre living in Europe or other places, counting on fixed income to hedge the market puke, it didnt. Lets look at this because you had Longley, you had Pippen, and you had Ron Harper. Its totally past its expiration date. The founder of Artemis Capital walks us through his theory of creating an investment portfolio that can outperform through big changes in markets. Welcome to the show, Chris Cole. And I think the last year is such a beautiful example. We cant stay with these things. So, it may look like wed want to shoot the bonds in this environment, but maybe when all of this, we get to kind of wear out of the stimulus and people The full scope of the unemployment problems and the fact that people solvency problems comes to light, maybe we get a sharp left turn back to deflation and then, all of a sudden, you end up getting some solid performance out of the bond portfolio. So, this was not a surprise to us, but I think it was a wonderful out of sample test to look at the theory that was presented in the paper. We had deflation in the first quarter, then the Fed came in and global central banks stepped in with $10 trillion, with the stimulus. Theres a lot in there. And it does not take into account skew, or how an asset performs on the right and left tail, or the return distribution, the extreme environments. Its only useful once you have a collection of managers in a portfolio. As far as the actively managed, obviously, commodity trend advisors are a true diversifier. And what that stands for is Cole Wins Above Replacement Portfolio, CWARP is what were calling it. And thats so important. I think there are ways to improve portfolios, you dont need to be afraid, not everything needs to be as Doomsday end of the world. or to simply have an email sent to you whenever we receive a new Artemis manages four funds that invest in the US. These include a smaller companies fund and two that seek to profit from both rising and falling share prices. Artemis Global Emerging Markets fund uses SmartGARP, a proprietary system that screens company shares. Photographer: So, youre getting hit In the 70s, stocks did nothing and they declined and there was a big bear market, and when they werent declining, they were just kind of going sideways. And I should commend you because youve done a great job with your products here. It only measures the player, it doesnt measure the players effect on a winning portfolio. Now, if you look at most Greek tragedies, like Oedipus Rex, or any classic Greek tragedy, the hero is blind to their fate, theyre warned of their fate, but they cant prevent it. Chris: Its a pretzel. The unwilling and the unable. And I think todays a great example of that, where we actually simultaneously are seeing declines in stocks and bonds on the inflation part. Well, last two years, not much has gone on, right? I think Ill know the answer. Well, whats interesting about that, is that if you looked at XIV on a Sharpe ratio basis, it showed that this was an incredible investment. How do I update this listing? Which seems just like adding a little more equity. In fact, its probably would be sub-five, even though the equity markets are declining bit by bit every day, youre not getting a payout in your long vol. Chris: You look at this framework, and these are the diversifiers that actually generate and those are for the metric, you could actually take out a loan at LIBOR plus something, layer any of those strategies on top of your pre-existing 60/40 portfolio and you end up having a better portfolio. Is it lack of understanding? If we go to something like the stagflation of the 1970s, which maybe well enter into, something like that, the 60/40 portfolio had reasonable drawdowns of about 30%. If youre interested in a deeper understanding, and for more information on how to become a farmland investor through their platform, please visitacretrader.com/meb. to see more advanced email alert options such as selecting any type of The challenge is, I think modern portfolio theory, in terms of the way Its a simple thing to understand, but its a very, very powerful idea. So, this concept of what you mentioned of mentally stepping away from these labels and your emotional attachment to them, I dont want my identity to be attached to my ideas. Weve been standing our firm out here in Austin, Texas. The fourth asset class is long volatility and conducts hedging. By the same reason, there is no breakout performance in commodities, because theres no rampant out of control inflation because rates are ticking up bit by bit by bit a day. And when equities lost money, XIV lost even more money. 13F filing from ARTEMIS VEGA FUND, L.P., enter your CTAs: Looking to work with RCM? A strategy that doesnt have a great Sharpe ratio, if you combine it with other strategies, like equity and bonds, dramatically improves the risk-adjusted performance of the total portfolio. And it reviewed the performance of those core asset classes through the year using actual numbers. That portfolio, those five core asset classes, what we call the Dragon Portfolio, performed incredibly throughout 2020. And to figure out an answer, what I did is I immediately said, okay, most of the backtested history, we have all these quants strategies, they really start, if youre lucky, in the 80s. Chris: If Id just shoot one in 2021, itd be the bonds. Were talking hypothetically. Sign up for notifications from Insider! People are using it as a diversification tool, its not a diversification tool. I will tell you after doing this for over a decade, our phone is ringing off the hook. So, what youre doing is were looking at the way that the different asset classes performed in different regimes. The first is that if you go back and read the original paper by William Sharpe, it was never ever intended to be used for sub-asset selection. Meb: Well, Chris, every five years, youre telling me that I see this over and over and over again, you get some beautiful looking equity curve, and some managers raised $500 million, $1 billion, $2 billion and then they disappear, at some point. On a quantitative basis, many of these modern portfolio-engineering strategies are using some window. So, when inflation has exploded, and youre looking at 14% to 16% Treasury yields, and mortgages are close to 25%, as they were back in the late 70s, early 80s. And thats mostly precious metals, and gold. And in this paper, we actually show some graphs that I think are just quite shocking to anyone who has an opportunity to look at them. Its incredible to put yourself in that mindset. And they make gold and they mine gold in Australia, so. Where do we find you? It was a levered equity trade, with short tails. email address below and choose 'Submit'. The firm last filed a Form D notice of exempt offering of securities on 2022-01-14. So, the whole point is that these things should be used together. And that would be an environment like, lets imagine, hypothetically, Im trying to poke holes in my own theories here. Web+44 131.225.7300 www.artemisfunds.com Investment Discipline Artemis believes that, whatever markets are doing, opportunities for above-average returns are available for All of a sudden, all of these different components that people have used, and all of these financial engineering strategies to augment and enhance portfolio returns actually fail. It matters, but thats not what you really care about their individual statistics. I think Pippen is right on. Meb: It also didnt help. 1 pages. If we go back to that same portfolio, and risk parity actually has the same problem. And you can start investing in just minutes online. Because I want my commodity trend guys to do really, really well during runaway momentum periods of stagflation, inflation, and commodity prices are exploding. The fund, which follows commodity indices and bets on futures in different commodities, is up 2.35% for the month and 7.65% for the year. Theres no sense of balance. But you make such a good point of all that matters is the sum total and people love to bucket the investments and they look at one thing, trend following, gold, whatever, hasnt gone anywhere for a few years. 2 pages. If you go back to the mindset of somebody who First of all, the average financial advisor is about 55 years old. Jordan is definitely equity. WebArtemis Capital Management is an investment, research, and technology firm that employs quantitative and behavioral-based trading models to generate returns from market volatility. Well, today, wed have to move deep into negative territory, in Europe even more so, to get that same convexity exposure on bonds. Because what thats telling you is that most of these strategies are simply layering on more equity-linked correlation risk, or theyre shorting tails or theyre shorting vol and some components to generate their alpha. So, based on this, I like to say that recency bias is a systemic risk. But its literally using some historical period of correlations and covariance. Now, some people might turn to some of these other strategies, like shorting volatility or risk premia strategies, we tested those two, theyre a disaster, truly a disaster. The beauty of what you have, and its hard for, I think, a lot of people thinking about true diversification and what that actually means because you have three big muscle movements that are missing from other traditional portfolios, people may have 2%, 3%, I dont hardly ever see more than 5%, any of these being the precious metals kind of gold sleeve, the long vol, and then the trend following sleeves ends up being actually over half the portfolio. WebArtemis investors have commented on how much they like tapping into and manipulating the data and information 24/7. Meb: I just assume it just kind of does its own thing. Its always what we do, and always will be what we do. Sports has long figured this out. If an institution gives me capital to run my vol strategies, or a CTA strategy, of all our CTA strategy, oftentimes only needs anywhere between 2% to 20% of the money that comes on in, in order to run its core strategy. Diversification by market regime is what creates a steady growth cycle. Chris: No, I think youre right. Again, referencing my buddy Eric Crittenden used to do with investors is he would make all the asset classes anonymous, and give it to an investor and say, Okay, look at these stats, you pick, what do you want, and/or put them together and show the final portfolios. And of course, he was looking at the trend following world, invariably, they would end up with a huge chunk and trend following of which they hadnt done. If you look at any range of history, of financial history, where stocks and bonds have been going up together at an incredible pace. Chris: You consider fixed income worked as a wonderful hedge in 08, well, you were able to take rates from 5% down to zero. If you were relying on fixed income to help you in March, well, there was a period of time where fixed income was actually declining simultaneously with stocks at the same time, which is also what is happening now, or happened today, at least. Disclaimer: Meb Faber is the co-founder and chief investment officer at Cambria Investment Management. Well, one of things I tested is I actually looked at a buy the dip strategy, going back 100 years, we went bankrupt three times, employing that strategy in a kind of systematic way. SEC form, multiple filers or classes of filers, and much more.***. And then we had this kind of rise in interest rates and commodity prices in the fourth quarter. Or even the wintertime is quite nice, actually. Thats a dragon. In the same vein, if you were that GI coming back from World War II, you wanted to be in cash and long vol., thats the thing that worked during the Great Depression. And the COVID crisis actually was this incredible testing ground for the theory. When equities are killing it, rebalancing out of equities into something like long vol and CTAs that are losing money, most people cant do it. And we see how it did during the pandemic, as well as talk about the optimal portfolio to help you grow and protect your wealth for the next 100 years. Chris: This is the problem. Thats the key. Chris: Thanks, Meb. Its not about diversification over a day or a week, its about diversification over an entire decade. Well, this is what Paul DePodesta meant by saying, you dont buy players, you buy wins. Do you want to give us overview? Showing 2 of 2 known decision makers at Artemis Capital Management, Preqin screens the most influential contacts in alternatives, so you only reach the key decision makers. So, then what happens is that interest rates are going up slightly, not massively, but a little bit, teeny bit at a time. Some individuals actually were able to actually generate a lot of EEMO for that. Meb: Yeah, he could be a good gold, too. It doesnt look at correlations. The adviser's REGISTRATION status is listed below. The fund owned 5,065 shares of the aerospace companys stock after purchasing an additional 4,155 shares during the How would rolling put strategy perform? $1 in March of 2009 is worth far more than $1 presumably in 1999 or $1 presumably today. So, you had all these GIs coming back huge baby boom, huge growth, U.S. is the manufacturing center of the world, its a great time. Chris: And you know, part of this is part of the problem with the tools that we have. About the institutions, by the way, theyre often just as guilty or a mess. Everyone that we know, every financial advisor, every person who has experience in markets has existed in this highly unique cycle, that truly is unique. Meb Faber Research Stock Market and Investing Blog, The Meb Faber Show Episode #134: Chris Cole, Artemis Capital Management, Volatility Is The Instrument That Makes Us Face Truth, The Allegory of the Hawk and Serpent (Cole), Episode #316: Dianne McKeever, Ides Capital, My Entire Career, Ive Been A Value Investing Focused Shareholder Activist, Episode #318: Perth Tolle, Life + Liberty Indexes, If I Was In Hong Kong Right Now, I Would Be Arrested, Definitely, For Doing This, Episode #474: Wes Gray & Jack Vogel, Alpha Architect BOXX, HIDE, & Why Trend Following is Timeless. And then the volatility, I dont even know how that would possibly miss I dont know. 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